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Title: [CLOSED] MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: odin210470 on September 02, 2023, 01:37:22 PM
Hello!
MSFS 1.33.8.0
Drzewieckidesign RJAA
GSX 2.7.1
Always in RJAA on push-back or takeoff MSFS crasched to desktop when I have TC on and traffic injected. The same when I fly to RJAA and get close to the airport.
RJAA 02:43 z Starttime 03:00z live weather Stand35 in the Standard Scenery Stand 37.
When I uninstall the Drzewieckidesign-RJAA scenery and fly with the ASOBO standard scenery, only 3 planes appear in the whole airport and TC crashes every 2-3 minutes.
Any ideas what I can do about it?
Attached are TC logs with standard ASOBO scenery. If LOG's with Drzewieckidesign-RJAA scenery are needed, I can deliver them later.

Thank you for help

Andreas
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Er!k on September 02, 2023, 02:17:32 PM
And if you run the sim without AI does it then crash as well?
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: odin210470 on September 02, 2023, 05:36:14 PM
No! Without AI everything work well!
I've gone through all the options.  MSFS crash only when TC is on.  and when I have the standard scenery on, TC crashes every 2-3 minutes.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Er!k on September 02, 2023, 06:00:23 PM
Sounds like a bogus livery. With the 3rd party airport enabled (much more parking spots enabled) the change for an instant CTD is higher..
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Kaiii3 on September 05, 2023, 02:34:38 PM
I have a feeling that this issue is resolved in the next update - at least my MSFS does not crash
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Wiseman on September 06, 2023, 04:06:11 PM
I also experienced this and did several experiments:

Spawn at various gates and times:

Approached RJAA several times, always crashes at transition waypoints before being cleared for approach.

Flying to and from RJTT strangely doesn't produce similar crashes.

Can confirm that without AI, there is no CTD as well.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Er!k on September 06, 2023, 05:10:41 PM
Well, if I had to narrow it down I would uninstall all airlines flying to RJAA and install them one by one to find the culpript.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Kaiii3 on September 06, 2023, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: Wiseman on September 06, 2023, 04:06:11 PMI also experienced this and did several experiments:

Spawn at various gates and times:
  • Morning, inject TC - CTD after 5 minutes
  • Afternoon, inject TC - CTD after 5 minutes
  • Night, inject TC - lasted for about 15 minutes before CTD

Approached RJAA several times, always crashes at transition waypoints before being cleared for approach.

Flying to and from RJTT strangely doesn't produce similar crashes.

Can confirm that without AI, there is no CTD as well.

try using ingame live traffic. I have a feeling that this is caused by an issue with RJAA itself
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Wiseman on September 07, 2023, 02:44:41 AM
Nope sorry, RJTT CTDed too with AIG TC, just take them longer to crash.

I tried the MSFS Live Traffic - so far no CTD for 30 minutes.

RJAA without traffic also runs perfectly well with my aircraft parked there for nearly 1 hour. So, I am quite positive it is one of the traffic.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Kaiii3 on September 07, 2023, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Wiseman on September 07, 2023, 02:44:41 AMNope sorry, RJTT CTDed too with AIG TC, just take them longer to crash.

they are to close together, so it can be either one of them, but if RJAA crashes the sim I am 99% sure it will happen when you sit at RJTT as well. SU13 will fix some CTDs caused by SimConnect I am 90% sure this is one of those
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: odin210470 on September 08, 2023, 07:28:21 AM
Hi just for Info!
I've been going through all the options for a week now.
I have now uninstalled all possible airlines, including those based on RJTT.
But whenever TC is switched on, a crash occurs. I also turned off GSX, but to no avail.
So it can't be due to a faulty livery. Without TC everything works great.
Very strange!!!
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Wiseman on September 08, 2023, 04:52:02 PM
I experimented with reduced traffic setting, 100% will immediately crash both RJTT and RJAA. 95% still produce crashes in both RJTT and RJAA, but takes a bit longer like 25-30 minutes.

I am currently at 4th hour at RJTT without crashing with 90% traffic setting.
Then I flew to RJAA, managed to land without CTD (never happened before), and spent this much of time during the entire flight & parking at Narita.
(https://forums.flightsimulator.com/uploads/default/original/4X/3/a/6/3a66a9091475f45fbe13c7319bf60e0f5c56ae9b.jpeg)
(https://forums.flightsimulator.com/uploads/default/original/4X/a/5/8/a58ecd63e5ea2e173cf596277781f17c5666bbfc.jpeg)

So 90% traffic density is my only way to stay not crashed. After that, you can dial it all the way to 100% and not getting any crash.
However, if you start the flight at 100%, it will CTD in less than 5 minutes.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: odin210470 on September 09, 2023, 02:38:49 PM
Ok! I will try too
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Er!k on September 09, 2023, 03:25:45 PM
Interesting find! Maybe a SimConnect overload?
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: odin210470 on September 12, 2023, 10:37:08 AM
Hello everyone,
I've now tried it out and as Wiseman said, I haven't had a CTD with 90% traffic yet.
What I find strange is that I uninstalled all the airlines that flew to RJAA and RJTT and it still crashed at 100% after starting TC. No traffic in the air or on the ground was visible on the map!
After the limiter was set to 90%, there has been no crash so far with or without airlines installed.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Wiseman on September 17, 2023, 09:26:18 AM
Hi, reporting back again.
Yes, I did start at 90% and then dialed it up to 100% -> and it ended up crashing now. So staying at 90% density is the safest bet.
Title: Re: MSFS crash to Desktop when using Drzewieckidesign-RJAA an TC
Post by: Kaiii3 on September 17, 2023, 09:38:05 AM
very strange... anyone of you running SU13B?