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Title: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 04:39:04 PM
Really weird.   I went to P3Dv4.3 today to check out traffic at an airport I did an ADE for and noticed there was no AI at all despite having the Traffic set at 100%.   To double check, I went to KIAH and it was completely empty.    I have my addons in a separate folder (Prepar3D v4 Add-ons) and in the past there was no problem seeing traffic.   I double checked that it was in operation using the P3DV4AddonOrganizer and AI Traffic showed green.    So, I'm at a complete loss as to where my traffic went.    My AI traffic has not moved or been deleted so I'm totally confused.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 09, 2018, 04:45:55 PM
have you changed something on your AI setup? New Files, moved something etc?
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: lrog on October 09, 2018, 04:55:26 PM
Probably an FS9 traffic file has snuck in somewere !
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Probably an FS9 traffic file has snuck in somewere !

No.   No xxx_FS9.bgl files in Scenery.

Haven't changed anything -- just added new traffic bgls as they come along.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 09, 2018, 05:42:58 PM
remove the last BGLs you added and try again. Then add one, test again, if its ok, then add the next and so on
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 06:00:51 PM
I did find that I had added all of my MAIW flightplans from FSX, so I removed them.    I now have traffic at KIAH.    However, I"m having trouble getting anything at the airport I'm working on (KINT).

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: johanfrc on October 09, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
Well.. The FSX files from MAIW are now replaced by the MAIW Matrix, which is P3Dv4 converted. So you can run all the official MAIW releases from that now instead of using your old files.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 06:25:47 PM
I actually thought I had done that but apparently it didn't take.     Still can not get any traffic at KINT but checking KOMA I have everything that should be there.     ???
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Dave YVRATC on October 09, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
Try other airports access the country or in Europe to check. Sounds like a classic fs9 traffic.bgl had made it's way in to your system.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 07:48:22 PM
I have 656 items in my Scenery folder.   653 have _FSX in their title.    One is lightobgj.bgl so there are 2 non-FSX traffic bgls in there but I'll be darned if I can find them.   
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: johanfrc on October 09, 2018, 08:28:02 PM
Also try to run the "Convert FS9 files to FSX" in AIFP. It's under "Bulk Traffic". Then search in every single folder in your installation. Maybe you have a single FS9 plan lying around somewhere.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
Yup,  there was one that I converted.    Now, I'll try KINT again.
Thanks, Johan.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 09, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
Went to KINT and still no traffic.    I made a small flightplan using:   1)  FAIB B737BBJ,   2) AIA B738Max,   3)   AIA EMB-120, and  4)   HTAI C208B.     All should be useable in P3Dv4 as I've kept up with the lua scripts, etc.  There is sufficient parking for all in the new ADE with the 737s Gates set at 19.   I will try 20m and see what happens.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Dimon on October 10, 2018, 10:31:43 AM
I still suspect that P3D does not see "Add-one" folder properly.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 12:15:42 PM
Apparently.
I checked the Add On Organizer for Perpar3D and got this:

"The following files have an incorrect character encoding:

C:\Users\Steve\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D
V4\Add-ons.cfg
"

Checking the add-ons.cfg, I see

"[Package.0]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\AI Aircraft
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
"

Should it read Required=True?

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: lrog on October 10, 2018, 01:30:09 PM
Have just checked my add-ons.cfg

and its exactly the same. No problems with my AI traffic !
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 01:36:44 PM
Well, like I said earlier, I have AI at both KIAH and KOMA but the flightplan I made for KINT resulted in none of the 4 a/c showing up.    The ADE I made for KINT shows no errors and the parking is (should be) sufficient for the 4 a/c to be there.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2018, 01:44:52 PM
you can try it
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Dave YVRATC on October 10, 2018, 01:59:50 PM
Try just adding your ai aircraft folder to the simobjects.cfg and not use the xml method at all. It's more of a pain than anything imo.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
Try just adding your ai aircraft folder to the simobjects.cfg and not use the xml method at all. It's more of a pain than anything imo.

I hadn't any problems so far with it. Using the Addon Method is quiet clearer then adding things to the cfgs
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 02:12:51 PM
It's got to be something to do with the ADE.   I have AI everywhere else.   I've zipped up both the ADE and the fp here so maybe someone can take a look at it.    Feel free to change the a/c as you want.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2018, 02:20:25 PM
AFD looks fine to me, but I will have a look in the sim
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 02:58:23 PM
I added a 2nd leg to each a/c but still no shows.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2018, 03:20:10 PM
I tested it with my AI Traffic:

Test 1 with default AFD: AI shows
Test 2 with your AFD: AI shows

so it must be something with the traffic file. I will test that now
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 03:41:51 PM
If you didn't use the traffic file how did you get AI at KINT?  I would check it with ACA2017 but when I try to check the traffic at any airport I get errors.    When I use ACA2017 Light, I get no errors.    I'm at a complete loss here.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2018, 03:50:33 PM
I have around 10 to 15 Flightplans flying to that airport on my system.

I added your FP with some of my Aircrafts and they are showing up on your AFD in the sim
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: lrog on October 10, 2018, 05:09:10 PM
Ai traffic also shows on my system using your AFD. Saw a CL605 take off & 3 Cessnaâ??s from the HTAI CSEP package. Did not try your flightplan.

Regards
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Dave YVRATC on October 10, 2018, 06:55:14 PM

I hadn't any problems so far with it. Using the Addon Method is quiet clearer then adding things to the cfgs
We've been editing FS cfg's for 15+ years, it's simple and it works. The Addon method is a bit more complicated and requires more work being XML editing for no gain.
I just tossed the idea out there as Steve may have made an xml error which is pretty common for many not used to XML formatting etc.
 
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: johanfrc on October 10, 2018, 07:33:33 PM
But many who uses the XML uses the LORBY-SI addon program, which really makes it a lot more simple to use the XML feature. I've added my AI models, my AI effects, the AI scripts and a separate main texture folder only containing the additional AI lightmaps for the LUA models.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
I have AI at other airports and that's the rub.    I can't figure out why the a/c in my fp won;t show up -- and no other a/c are there either.    I'm working with ACA2017 to see if there's an error anywhere and all it caught is a model error on a HTAI C90.    Fixing that now and will try again.   
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 08:25:17 PM
Using AIFP's Traffic Analyizer, I see where I have no parking available for anything.    ???

Here's the analysis from AIFP:


                        File: AIFP\Work\Temp.txt

From-To                 AC Title                                    Code(s)   Parked In   

There was no parking available at the time requested for the following aircraft:

0/0/00:50 - 0/0/02:30   JYAI Be350 GAJ N857UP                       
0/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
0/0/21:04 - 0/0/21:57   JYAI Be350 GAJ N849UP                       
0/0/22:25 - 0/1/18:27   TBAI C560XLS GAJ N506UP                     
0/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
0/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
0/2/23:01 - 0/3/02:59   AI Gulfstream G550 N607CV                   
0/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
0/6/12:23 - 0/6/12:51   FAIB B737W BBJ Boeing Executive N839BA     
0/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
1/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
1/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
1/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
1/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
1/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
2/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
2/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
2/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
2/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
2/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
2/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
3/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
3/2/15:41 - 0/5/15:51   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
3/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
3/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
3/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
3/5/18:11 - 0/2/14:25   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
3/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
3/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
3/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
4/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
4/2/15:41 - 0/5/15:51   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
4/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
4/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
4/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
4/5/18:11 - 0/2/14:25   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
4/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
4/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
4/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
5/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
5/2/15:41 - 0/5/15:51   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
5/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
5/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
5/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
5/5/18:11 - 0/2/14:25   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
5/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
5/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
5/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
6/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
6/2/15:41 - 0/5/15:51   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
6/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
6/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
6/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
6/5/18:11 - 0/2/14:25   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
6/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
6/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
6/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
7/0/20:52 - 0/0/21:02   HTAI G-550 Anadarko Petroleum N288A         
7/2/15:41 - 0/5/15:51   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
7/2/17:57 - 0/5/18:07   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
7/2/18:35 - 0/6/18:45   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
7/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       
7/5/18:11 - 0/2/14:25   AIA EMB120 FRG 'N121CZ'                     
7/5/20:25 - 0/2/14:00   FAIB B737W SN BPP N668CP                   
7/6/22:41 - 0/2/14:15   FSPXAI B737MAX8 N8704Q Boeing Test Center   
7/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       

The following aircraft with parking code(s) could not be accommodated in coded parking spots at the time requested:

0/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       FDY       PARKING 1   
0/3/20:28 - 0/3/21:26   JYAI Be350 GAJ N853UP                       GAJ       PARKING 3   
0/4/14:24 - 0/4/16:05   JYAI Be350 GAJ N801UP                       GAJ       PARKING 3   
0/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       FDY       PARKING 1   
1/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       FDY       PARKING 8   
1/6/23:33 - 0/2/14:33   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       FDY       PARKING 4   
2/2/18:55 - 0/6/19:05   HTAI C208B FDY N958SP                       FDY       PARKING 6   

And this is using (I assume) the ADE I installed.   


Steve


Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 08:32:57 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if I've seen any non-commercial; e.g., GA, aircraft anywhere.   I've checked and I've seen airline traffic at KIAH, KOMA, & PANC -- both pax and cargo - but no GA types.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
And here's the list of parking available in the ADE

Type         Name      No  Index   Radius Meters        Heading      Airlines   
RAMP_GA_SMALL   PARKING   1   000   10.00         120.0      No   
RAMP_GA_SMALL   PARKING   2   001   10.00         120.0      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   3   002   14.00         120.0      No   
RAMP_GA_LARGE   PARKING   4   003   18.00         225.0      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   5   004   14.00         225.8      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   6   005   14.00         226.6      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   7   006   14.00         209.8      No   
RAMP_GA_SMALL   PARKING   8   007   10.00         120.0      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      1   008   19.00         334.0      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      2   009   19.00         317.6      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      3   010   14.00         289.3      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   9   011   14.00         210.2      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   10   012   14.00         210.2      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   11   013   14.00         303.3      No   
RAMP_GA_SMALL   PARKING   12   014   10.00         000.0      No   
RAMP_GA_SMALL   PARKING   13   015   10.00         000.0      No   
RAMP_GA_LARGE   PARKING   14   016   18.00         203.2      No   
RAMP_GA_MEDIUM   PARKING   15   017   14.00         002.7      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      4   018   18.00         330.4      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      5   019   18.00         330.4      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      6   020   18.00         330.4      No   
GATE_SMALL      GATE      7   021   18.00         330.4      No   
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: johanfrc on October 10, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
What is your GA traffic slider in Options on?
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 11:12:30 PM
Both Airline & GA set at 100%
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 10, 2018, 11:15:55 PM
I don't understand the comment from AIFP concerning KINT traffic:

There was no parking available at the time requested for the following aircraft:
followed by a complete listing of all traffic at this airport.
 ???
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
I started P3Dv4.3 up and went to KINT.    Left it running for over an hour and still no traffic at all.   
BTW, earlier I checked at KOMA and did see a LJ-45.....

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 11, 2018, 12:55:15 AM
Steve, do you have the p3d default traffic .bgl's still installed in scenery/world/scenery ?

JH 

 

Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 01:38:18 AM
Steve, do you have the p3d default traffic .bgl's still installed in scenery/world/scenery ?

JH

Nope
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 01:39:26 AM
And, I removed my ADE from the sim and the Flightplan I had as a test.   Went to (default) KINT and sat for over an hour and saw absolutely NO traffic what so ever.    :reaction:   I'm at a loss.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 11, 2018, 12:21:30 PM
If you've got traffic at some airports but not others, isn't that a sign of FS9 bgl's installed somewhere?    I 've read through the post from start to finish, I can't think of anything else that's glaring except your Lorby set up which you've already indicated isn't showing any errors.    Plus if you have traffic at other airports, it can't be a lorby issue.   

 ::confused::
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 12:46:29 PM
I've taken all of my flightplans out of P3Dv4.3 except my test.   I'll go to the sim and see if I have traffic at KINT.   If so, there is in fact a FS9 fligthplan in there somewhere (in the 653 flightplans).

I've added back in my ADE for KINT for this test.

S
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 01:27:51 PM
Test #1 Results:    Removed all AI Traffic except my Test.bgl
                              Included my ADE for KINT

                              Result:    No AI Traffic

Next I will repeat the test with the default KINT.

Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 01:44:00 PM
Test #2 Results:

                         Removed all AI Traffic.bgls except my Test
                         Removed my ADE for KINT

                        Result:    No AI Traffic


Could my lack of AI be a result of a bad ADE for another airport?    This does not make any sense to me.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 11, 2018, 01:59:45 PM
what about the test ADE for KINT?  Could it be faulty.   Did you create it yourself or download from somewhere else.     Can you send it to me and let me try it in my P3d v 4.3

Any chance you have a duplicate for KINT?

Just checked my default KINT, lots of little AI there.   
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 02:37:42 PM
John,
      I even tried it with the default KINT after removing my ADE (I made it as I've made lots of them in the past).     For some reason I'm just not seeing the amount of AI I should be seeing anywhere..    Even at KIAH & KOMA & PANC I don't see a lot of GA AI even though I have the both traffic sliders at 100%.
       Most all of my AI is set at 1% in AIFP.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 11, 2018, 03:17:19 PM
Weird. 

So you have AI, but very little.    Is the AI that's present - default AI or personalized AI.    Sliders are set at 100 percent, so that's not it.       I'm cringing when I write this, but do you have any other AI traffic program installed?   Like Ultimate traffic or something else that controls percentage of AI.     

I'm less certain about the 1% setting in AIFP.    What happens if you adjust it?   If you can do that.     

Something else that I read last night in this thread had me thinking.    You said or someone said that LORBY was throwing up an error when you run the checker in the program.   Have you been saving your xml and other files in the proper format?    I'm grasping here, but..

Sent you a FB message, thought it might be easier to converse that way and try and lick this thing..

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 06:18:42 PM
I even deleted the Client and re-installed it and still nothing.    I'm still trying to come to grips with the remark above while using AIFP saying that no parking was available for any of the AI at KINT.   
I'll check FB but I don't normally spend any time at all on FB due to "political" issues down here in the lower 48....    :groan:
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 11, 2018, 07:37:56 PM
OK, I checked the Add-on Organizer for P3D and Checked Encoding Errors.   It told me that I have an error in the add-ons.cfg.    Below is the .xml for the add-ons.cfg that it says is incorrect:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on">
  <AddOn.Name>AI Aircraft</AddOn.Name>
  <AddOn.Description>AI Aircraft</AddOn.Description>
  <AddOn.Component>
    <Category>SimObjects</Category>
    <Path>F:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Simobjects\AI Aircraft</Path>
    <Name>AI Aircraft</Name>
  </AddOn.Component>
</SimBase.Document>


The path above is correct.    I can't see any other obvious error.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 11, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
Sorry, back from furnace woes..

Check your add-on  - AI Aircraft.    I'll bet you the format is not correct.   Not the path, the format.    It's got to be UTF-8 encoding...at least I think it's UTF-8 encoding.

Here's mine for my AI folder which is stored outside the sim.   It's not the content of the xml that's the problem - it's the format that's throwing up the error.   

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="AddOnXml" version="4,0" id="add-on">
  <AddOn.Name>AI Aircraft</AddOn.Name>
  <AddOn.Description>AI Aircraft</AddOn.Description>
  <AddOn.Component>
    <Category>SimObjects</Category>
    <Path>C:\P3D Addons\Aircraft</Path>
    <Name>AI Aircraft</Name>
  </AddOn.Component>
</SimBase.Document>

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 12:05:25 AM
 ???   Except for the path, they appear the same to me.   I did go to KOMA and sit and watch aircraft depart for a little bit on rw 36   All commercial.
I did find that a DHC-6 (HTAI) was crashing/flying/crashing/flying around the airport at first.    My HTAI DHC-6 a/c has the P3D Steering Model installed.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 12, 2018, 12:45:07 AM
No problem Steve, it's NOT the path.   It's the formatting of the xml file that throws the error.   If the file is not the correct format, there can be problems.    I only included my xml so you could see that they are practically the same.

Is the file saved as UTF-8?   

LORBY is indicating it's not the proper encoding.    Check it out.  Save it as UTF-8 and give it a whirl. 

I'm not sure what else I can suggest. 

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 02:27:05 AM
But doesn't this indicate that it's in  utf-9?     <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

I don't have a .xml editor.


I'm confused.



Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 02:34:09 AM
Looking again at add-ons.cfg, I see that it's this one which is active:

[Package.0]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\AI Aircraft
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.1]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\AI Traffic
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.2]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Texture
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.3]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Addon Scenery
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.4]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\AI Lights Reborn Free Edition
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.5]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Scripts
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.6]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Gauges
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.7]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Effects
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
[Package.8]
Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\Orbx ObjectFlow 2
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE


Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 12, 2018, 03:01:11 AM
Quote:

But doesn't this indicate that it's in  utf-9?     <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>


No it doesn't.    The encoding=utf-8 message will still show - even if it's not saved properly.   

Right click, select "open with" and use Notepad to Open the add-on.xml file in Path=C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\AI Aircraft. 

Then with the xml open in notepad, click on "File", "Save as" and check to see what the "Encoding" is set at - in the bottom right of your open XML file.     It should read UTF-8.     If it doesn't, then select it from the drop down.    Even if you mistakenly save it with another encoding, it's still going to show you <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> in the first line when you open the xml.   Thus the reason for the LORBY checker.      Again, ensure encoding is UTF-8, save and close the file.     Run the LORBY checker and the error should be gone.   

If you can see traffic at other airports, I'm doubtful that this is going to work.   But the xml has to be saved with proper encoding regardless.   

It's not ideal to go back and forth on the forum in terms of ease of communication.  ;)

But I'm happy to try and continue to lend a hand if I can.

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 03:44:02 AM
Did what you suggested and it indicates that the encoding is utf-8
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 12, 2018, 03:47:14 AM
10-4, is the error gone now when you check it via Lorby?

Can you email me the AFCAD for KINT and a copy of your p3d.cfg?

I have to head to zzzzz, I'll keep thinking it over and have another look when I'm home from work. 

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 01:06:19 PM
Error is still there.   
I'll send you the ADE but it's the same if I take it out of the sim.
I don't think I had this issue with Prepar3Dv4.2 -- only noticed it since v4.3

Steve

Edit-->   Sent to your hotmail acct
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 12, 2018, 01:18:02 PM
No attachments in the e-mail.

BTW, have you tried deleting your p3d.cfg, letting it rebuild, fine tune the settings and trying again?

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 12, 2018, 02:08:00 PM
Got it now.  Thanks

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 12, 2018, 02:54:06 PM
BTW, the LORBY error should be gone. 

I tried it myself last night and saved it as ANSI.  Checked with it LORBI and there was an error.   Resaved it UTF-8 and the error was gone. 

Are you sure there isn't any type of duplicate exe or dll that the program is reading?   

A puzzler to be certain. 

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 05:11:40 PM
I don't know.   I just checked KMMU with the AIFP Parking Analyzer and it tells me that there is no parking for any GA a/c....   And, it's the default airport with 21 GA parking slots.!!!!!!!!!

I do not think it's Lorby.   I have Airline and Cargo traffic but no, or very, very little GA activity.    My GA setting is 100%

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
Here's the AIGP Parking Analyzer for KMMU from my sim .    Default airport    My GA AI set to 100%


From-To                 AC Title                                    Code(s)     Parked In   

There was no parking available at the time requested for the following aircraft:

0/0/00:23 - 0/0/15:19   UGA_DJC_BD-700 N700BX                       
0/0/01:34 - 0/0/04:54   UGA_JBS CL-604 N667LC                       
0/0/19:07 - 0/0/20:01   AIG Do328J Ultimate Jet Charters 'N429FJ'   
0/0/19:09 - 0/0/21:33   UGA_JBS CL-601 N460F                       
1/2/02:08 - 2/0/21:52   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N551RC         
1/4/05:21 - 1/4/22:55   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
2/1/23:27 - 3/4/18:32   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N551RC         
2/3/02:11 - 3/2/19:39   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
2/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                   
3/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                   
3/4/07:49 - 3/5/17:55   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
3/6/05:20 - 4/5/18:27   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
4/1/23:01 - 4/3/14:22   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N551RC         
4/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                   
4/5/17:41 - 5/6/11:14   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N551RC         
4/6/05:02 - 5/1/00:19   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
5/3/01:07 - 5/4/18:04   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
5/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                   
6/0/00:30 - 7/1/09:25   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N551RC         
6/1/18:56 - 7/3/15:32   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
6/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                   
7/3/22:15 - 7/3/22:50   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
7/4/00:51 - 0/4/12:07   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N510SR         
7/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                   
7/4/17:55 - 1/0/21:16   HTAI G-550 Related Companies N551RC         

The following aircraft with parking code(s) could not be accommodated in coded parking spots at the time requested:

0/0/09:59 - 0/0/10:21   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N543PB'                  SKQ         PARKING 1   
0/0/15:18 - 0/0/17:20   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N110BP                    GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/0/17:54 - 0/0/19:24   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/1/00:19 - 0/1/07:10   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/1/09:32 - 0/1/11:30   UGA_JBS CL-604 N99KW                        GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/1/11:46 - 0/1/13:35   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/1/13:22 - 0/1/17:38   JYAI Be350 GAJ N849UP                       GAJ         PARKING 1   
0/1/14:08 - 0/1/19:10   JYAI Be350 GAJ N824UP                       GAJ         PARKING 2   
0/1/14:27 - 0/1/18:35   JBS LJ45 RIX N617RX                         GA2J, RIX   PARKING 3   
0/1/17:44 - 0/1/19:09   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/1/21:50 - 0/2/04:30   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 16   
0/2/00:07 - 0/3/12:49   JYAI Be350 GAJ N855UP                       GAJ         PARKING 1   
0/2/01:37 - 0/2/07:48   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/2/02:03 - 0/2/02:23   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N373KM'                  SKQ         PARKING 2   
0/2/10:46 - 0/2/11:49   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N677ST'                  SKQ         PARKING 2   
0/2/17:34 - 0/2/19:57   UGA_DJC_BD-700 N67RX                        GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/2/18:03 - 0/2/19:58   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/2/19:48 - 0/3/16:59   JBS LJ45 RIX N821LC                         GA2J, RIX   PARKING 2   
0/3/00:58 - 0/3/05:05   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/3/12:08 - 0/3/21:37   AIG Do328J Ultimate Jet Charters 'N425FJ'   UJC         PARKING 15   
0/3/15:50 - 0/3/19:39   UGA_DJC_BD-700 5000 N205EL IR_Cam           GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/3/20:32 - 0/4/02:30   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 16   
0/3/22:25 - 0/4/14:48   JYAI Be350 GAJ N820UP                       GAJ         PARKING 2   
0/4/01:55 - 0/4/02:22   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N126GH'                  SKQ         PARKING 3   
0/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                    TFF         PARKING 14   
0/4/06:20 - 0/4/08:34   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/4/13:45 - 0/4/14:48   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/4/17:28 - 0/4/18:42   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/4/19:27 - 0/5/17:01   TBAI C560XLS GAJ N507UP                     GAJ         PARKING 4   
0/4/21:07 - 0/4/22:17   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/5/01:44 - 0/5/12:44   UGA_DJC_BD-700 N700BX                       GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/5/02:04 - 0/5/02:19   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N373KM'                  SKQ         PARKING 1   
0/5/11:07 - 0/5/11:42   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N373KM'                  SKQ         PARKING 1   
0/5/13:40 - 0/5/15:03   JBS LJ45 RIX N617RX                         GA2J, RIX   PARKING 1   
0/5/14:30 - 0/5/16:53   DWAI Ce550 N120JP                           GA2J        PARKING 2   
0/5/15:17 - 0/5/17:23   UGA_DJC_BD-700 N67RX                        GA3J        PARKING 14   
0/5/17:03 - 0/5/17:56   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/5/17:34 - 0/5/19:48   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 16   
0/5/19:21 - 0/6/05:47   UGA_JBS CL-601 N802PA                       GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/6/01:36 - 0/6/02:09   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N373KM'                  SKQ         PARKING 2   
0/6/11:12 - 0/6/12:16   AIG PC-12 Labcorp 'N677ST'                  SKQ         PARKING 2   
0/6/14:45 - 0/6/16:59   UGA_JBAI CL-605 N950RJ                      GA3J        PARKING 5   
0/6/18:18 - 0/1/01:28   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 15   
0/6/19:34 - 0/6/22:15   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N729KP                    GA3J        PARKING 16   
0/6/22:35 - 0/1/12:28   UGA_JBS CL-601-SD N733CF                    GA3J        PARKING 16   
0/6/23:45 - 0/0/14:29   UGA_DJC_BD-700 N67RX                        GA3J        PARKING 14   
1/4/02:47 - 0/4/13:56   HTAI G-V Talon Air N59JE                    TFF         PARKING 13   


There is definitely SOMETHING wrong with my P3Dv4.3.     
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: johanfrc on October 12, 2018, 05:43:03 PM
I cans ee you use multiweek plans. Try to move those away from the sim and then make the Parking Analyzer do itâ??s job again. I got the same error, when I tried to analyze CPH. I guess it was due to AIFP not "restarting" 1 week plans for every week the multi-week plans are in progress. That gave me an airport where all planes are parked for up to 8 weeks, although in the sim it don't do that.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 12, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
Possibly true but I removed all of my flightplans except the Test I made for KINT and there was still no GA AI.    I'll try that again.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 13, 2018, 03:44:53 PM
Well, I removed all AI Aircraft that did not have a P3D model but still no GA AI.   

Question:   Does a converted a/c for P3D (not specifically for v4) still work in P3Dv4?    If so, that may be the issue, though I have Cargo and Airline traffic galore.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 13, 2018, 04:12:49 PM
OK, This is really, really getting me Pi$$ed Off.    ::mad::  ::mad::  ::mad::  ::mad::  ::mad::  :nuke: I took all of the traffic bgls out of my sim except my test for KINT.    As above, there are only P3D modeled a/c in my sim now and STILL NO DAMNED GA TRAFFIC.    (Or airline traffic at KINT for that matter as I have 2 B737s in the test fp)

 
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Dominato83 on October 13, 2018, 04:56:01 PM
At this point Steve, it might just be worth uninstalling and reinstalling the sim. I know itâ??s a time intensive process but youâ??ve been going at this for the better part of the week now to no avail. Hope you can get it figured out soon!
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 13, 2018, 05:19:53 PM
I reinstalled the Client which I thought should take care of it.   Maybe you're right.   All my add-ons are outside the main sim and I'm thinking it's in  the add-ons.   
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 13, 2018, 09:20:59 PM
Thus the beauty of installing outside the sim.   I sent a couple of comments by e-mail.. 

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 13, 2018, 11:00:05 PM
Steve, have a look at my last set of e-mails. 

Curious, do you have any maiw afcads or scenery installed near the problematic airports? 

I can't get to the bottom of this, but my own past experience is partial/missing planes are connected to FS9 plans.   

Baffled.    ???
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 14, 2018, 12:08:30 AM
Finally got a couple of a/c to show up at KINT.    ONly see 2 of my 4 in my Test flightplan but no others.    I removed all of my flyable aircraft which included the FeelThere ERJs and the VCol CRJs      I think it may be the CRJs from Virtual Colombia that aren't useable in P3Dv4.

I will keep testing...

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 14, 2018, 12:58:40 AM
Now that's weird.  But good to see some progress

JH
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 14, 2018, 01:05:43 AM
Saw 2 GA Jets (CL type) at KMMU.    Saw a ton of Cargo birds at KLRD (default).   I'm converting my FSX KLRD to P3D to see what else I can see.     Re-installed the FeelThere ERJS (135, 145, 175 & 195).    I'll test more tomorrow.   Right now, Mizzou is getting their A$$ kicked by Bama.     :groan:    :reaction:
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: Dominato83 on October 14, 2018, 01:17:10 AM
Saw 2 GA Jets (CL type) at KMMU.    Saw a ton of Cargo birds at KLRD (default).   I'm converting my FSX KLRD to P3D to see what else I can see.     Re-installed the FeelThere ERJS (135, 145, 175 & 195).    I'll test more tomorrow.   Right now, Mizzou is getting their A$$ kicked by Bama.     :groan:    :reaction:
To be fair, Bama is in a league of their own right now, and no one else in the country really has a chance this year.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: unc1rlm on October 14, 2018, 01:48:18 PM
Steve...Sorry to put you thru this. You are so great and everyone helping you. I got ai's at KINT but they all just sit there. It can be 737's or ys11 or FH227 but they don't budge... Could it be anything amiss in the afcad. I think the afcad you built and one I have been working on are ok..i think but nothing moving. I can't even get traffic into my new McDonald's fly-thru..:)

I think like you said..the Dakota Smith was messed up and I don't think the fsx default KINT works either..

Just hate to leave KINT in the dinosaur pit... Your's worked at one time but for some reason nothing works. I have reinstalled p3dv4.3 and nothing..all the same.

Thanks,
BobM.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 14, 2018, 02:24:49 PM
Well, my initial Test fligtplan only had the a/c move on Tuesday -- all TNGs.   
I'm finding out more and more that anything in your sim that is not specifically meant for P3Dv4 will cause issues
I've purged all of the a/c, scenery, etc, that I can find and as I do this, things get better.   Not perfect as yet but I think I'm getting there.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: sticky1202 on October 14, 2018, 02:53:36 PM
Reading through this thread, you mentioned you observed a CL type aircraft at MMU. Is it a JBAI CLxx, converted to P3Dv4? I'm having a heck of a time trying to get those birds to show in my sim!


Jim
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 14, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
Yeah, it was a convertedd JBAI (UGA) Challenger CL-604.   Converted using the lua obtained here at AIG.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: sticky1202 on October 14, 2018, 02:58:06 PM
Thanks Steve. Back to troubleshooting...I feel your pain!    :nuke:

Jim
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 14, 2018, 04:48:14 PM
Success!

At KPDK
(http://www.jcai.dk/images/Steve/Success.png)

Don't know (yet) about KINT.   I'll check into that in a bit.

Removing everything FSX apparently solved my lack of GA AI

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 14, 2018, 05:04:02 PM
And, all 4 of my test a/c are at KINT  ::party:: though no other AI traffic is present but it's Sunday.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: jhaley101 on October 14, 2018, 05:22:56 PM
Yayyyy
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: unc1rlm on October 15, 2018, 08:46:18 PM
 ::party:: ::happy::

All mine look nice at Kint just sitting there gleeming in the sun. Course they aren't moving :)

Bob M
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 15, 2018, 10:06:08 PM
Been sittin' here at the end of the active watching the a/c take off from KINT...   
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: unc1rlm on October 16, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
Any tidbits or insight that may have caused ai's to not show up...move or whatever...afcad, aifp..ai models...thanks,
Bob M.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: SteveLewis on October 16, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
I removed all of my Addon Scenery then only added back those that were specific for P3D.    That was after removing all FSX a/c.    But, I can't give a specific cause.

Steve
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: AirbusManiac on November 18, 2018, 11:51:34 PM
I was reading this thread as I had the same problem. From one day to another ALL of my AI traffic disappeared.
Long story short: "Something" removed "Default Terrain" entry in the scenery.cfg which adresses the "scenery/world" folder that contains all of the traffic.bgl

I used Lorby's AddonManager to recover it. Et voila, there it was again.

Hope this helps for others with the same problem.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: romeocharlie on March 02, 2019, 09:46:00 PM
I've just had the exact same problem - first I thought a recent scenery installation had put a FS9 traffic file into my setup. Yet despite deleting the new scenery, the problem persisted. Then I read this thread and found the scenery\world entry was missing from scenery.cfg.

Can I just confirm scenery\world should be right at the bottom of the scenery library entries?

I can't understand how this happened, but I think some add-on deleted the entry.
Title: Re: No AI Traffic in P3Dv4.3
Post by: rke on March 02, 2019, 10:55:26 PM
Personally I have my traffic BGL's in their own folder outside the default P3Dv4 folder.

On my setup, the bottom three entries are like this:

Default scenery (the Scenery\BASE entry)
Ship traffic <- Custom folder
AI Traffic <- Custom folder
Default Terrain