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Title: [SOLVED] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Seat7A on October 01, 2021, 07:02:36 PM
Updated Traffic Controller to 0.4.1.0. The program gets stuck in "Load airports". I use P3D v5.2.

/Thomas
Sweden
Title: Re: Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: rangingwarr on October 01, 2021, 07:21:08 PM
Same is happening to me except my entire computer freezes after a few minutes of it being stuck there. P3D v4.5
Title: Re: Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 01, 2021, 07:39:57 PM
same issue for me, I have started and wait half an hour
Title: Re: Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: johanfrc on October 01, 2021, 07:45:05 PM
Are you running it as admin?
https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=36849.0
Title: Re: Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: johanfrc on October 01, 2021, 07:45:33 PM
And BTW.

Remember to post the log files. If there is a problem it's great to have those so Kai can see what might be wrong.
Title: Re: Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 01, 2021, 08:19:31 PM
I gave the admin rights. version of 0.3 was working normal today.
only changes are update of tc and update of some flights plans
Title: Re: Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: rangingwarr on October 01, 2021, 11:19:40 PM
I'm also running as admin. Log files attached
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 05:28:56 AM
1) remove any .bin file from: <AIGTC>\Resources\TC
2) Start AIGTC without starting P3D
3) Let the cache recreate
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: rangingwarr on October 02, 2021, 07:01:44 AM
Before I saw your post I tried a clean install which didn't include that folder and started it without P3D and it did the same thing. However I realized that it didn't actually freeze my PC completely, it just slowed everything down to the extent that you couldn't do anything but every few minutes something would move on the screen and the HDD activity light remained illuminated. After about 30 minutes it finished and and seems to be working fine now, but the initial load will likely still be a problem for other users
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Seat7A on October 02, 2021, 07:20:56 AM
I have closed P3D, deleted .bin file from <AIGTC>\Resources, started AIGTC as adm. Same loop.

/Thomas
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 07:32:37 AM
replace you files with these attached, and try again. After that post the log files
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 08:16:32 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 07:32:37 AM
replace you files with these attached, and try again. After that post the log files

same result Kaiii3, I removed files in resource again same

logs    (my Main Drive is hard disk D and AIGTC installed c drive for your info)

Fault bucket 2277579203381091148, type 5
Event Name: CLR20r3
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
P2: 0.4.1.0
P3: f3f36c56
P4: PresentationCore
P5: 4.8.4390.0
P6: 609c5b11
P7: 1e23
P8: 0
P9: PSZQOADHX1U5ZAHBHOHGHLDGIY4QIXHX
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3B0D.tmp.mdmp
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERE7AA.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERECFA.tmp.xml
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WEREEFC.tmp.csv
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WEREF1C.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_AIGTech - Traffi_745eb8159c345d18f9e57bceedefdd7499e5bb_2a23b6ee_0d89b460-228c-4e36-8c87-a2e0ade4d614

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: a31e1a17-34d7-401b-8856-d46d25cd58c9
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 3f62f7ae376c4bde2f9b9637e558db4c
Cab Guid: 0


- System

  - Provider

   [ Name]  Windows Error Reporting

  - EventID 1001

   [ Qualifiers]  0

   Version 0

   Level 4

   Task 0

   Opcode 0

   Keywords 0x80000000000000

  - TimeCreated

   [ SystemTime]  2021-10-02T08:04:11.6636351Z

   EventRecordID 15454

   Correlation

  - Execution

   [ ProcessID]  0
   [ ThreadID]  0

   Channel Application

   Computer RabiaHusamettin

   Security


- EventData

   2277579203381091148
   5
   CLR20r3
   Not available
   0
   AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
   0.4.1.0
   f3f36c56
   PresentationCore
   4.8.4390.0
   609c5b11
   1e23
   0
   PSZQOADHX1U5ZAHBHOHGHLDGIY4QIXHX
   
   \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3B0D.tmp.mdmp \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERE7AA.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERECFA.tmp.xml \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WEREEFC.tmp.csv \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WEREF1C.tmp.txt
   \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_AIGTech - Traffi_745eb8159c345d18f9e57bceedefdd7499e5bb_2a23b6ee_0d89b460-228c-4e36-8c87-a2e0ade4d614
   
   0
   a31e1a17-34d7-401b-8856-d46d25cd58c9
   268435456
   3f62f7ae376c4bde2f9b9637e558db4c
   0

Another one

Faulting application name: AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe, version: 0.4.1.0, time stamp: 0xf3f36c56
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.19041.1202, time stamp: 0xc9db1934
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x0000000000034f99
Faulting process id: 0x6dec
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7b75c095ca58b
Faulting application path: C:\AIG_TrafficController_0.3.3.9\AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
Faulting module path: D:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: 4ba362c6-5d0e-4eee-b272-f9f0f493c511
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:


- System

  - Provider

   [ Name]  Application Error

  - EventID 1000

   [ Qualifiers]  0

   Version 0

   Level 2

   Task 100

   Opcode 0

   Keywords 0x80000000000000

  - TimeCreated

   [ SystemTime]  2021-10-02T08:04:22.7400967Z

   EventRecordID 15455

   Correlation

  - Execution

   [ ProcessID]  0
   [ ThreadID]  0

   Channel Application

   Computer RabiaHusamettin

   Security


- EventData

   AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
   0.4.1.0
   f3f36c56
   KERNELBASE.dll
   10.0.19041.1202
   c9db1934
   c000041d
   0000000000034f99
   6dec
   01d7b75c095ca58b
   C:\AIG_TrafficController_0.3.3.9\AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
   D:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
   4ba362c6-5d0e-4eee-b272-f9f0f493c511
   


- System

  - Provider

   [ Name]  Windows Error Reporting

  - EventID 1001

   [ Qualifiers]  0

   Version 0

   Level 4

   Task 0

   Opcode 0

   Keywords 0x80000000000000

  - TimeCreated

   [ SystemTime]  2021-10-02T08:04:29.2310235Z

   EventRecordID 15456

   Correlation

  - Execution

   [ ProcessID]  0
   [ ThreadID]  0

   Channel Application

   Computer RabiaHusamettin

   Security


- EventData

   1671407146393167287
   4
   APPCRASH
   Not available
   0
   AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
   0.4.1.0
   f3f36c56
   KERNELBASE.dll
   10.0.19041.1202
   c9db1934
   c000041d
   0000000000034f99
   
   
   \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER259C.tmp.mdmp \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER38B8.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3936.tmp.xml \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3936.tmp.csv \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3956.tmp.txt
   \\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_AIGTech - Traffi_ccbb3df59b121a8282f42663b1f192520623532_2a23b6ee_2ca1d452-ccdb-4e35-a416-520ca070a42c
   
   0
   4ba362c6-5d0e-4eee-b272-f9f0f493c511
   268435456
   6fc4c876222efb72173207f1b3d065b7
   0


Fault bucket 1671407146393167287, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: AIGTech - Traffic Controller.exe
P2: 0.4.1.0
P3: f3f36c56
P4: KERNELBASE.dll
P5: 10.0.19041.1202
P6: c9db1934
P7: c000041d
P8: 0000000000034f99
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER259C.tmp.mdmp
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER38B8.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3936.tmp.xml
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3936.tmp.csv
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3956.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\D:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_AIGTech - Traffi_ccbb3df59b121a8282f42663b1f192520623532_2a23b6ee_2ca1d452-ccdb-4e35-a416-520ca070a42c

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 4ba362c6-5d0e-4eee-b272-f9f0f493c511
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 6fc4c876222efb72173207f1b3d065b7
Cab Guid: 0
   



Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 08:23:10 AM
any second error log with the same timestamp?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Seat7A on October 02, 2021, 09:35:05 AM
Replaced the the files. Same result and endless loop

/Thomas
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Seat7A on October 02, 2021, 09:35:05 AM
Replaced the the files. Same result and endless loop

/Thomas

any .bin files in AIGTC\Resources\TC?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Seat7A on October 02, 2021, 10:03:34 AM
No

/Thomas
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 10:04:36 AM
ok, lets try this EXE
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 08:23:10 AM
any second error log with the same timestamp?

I found these crash report , do you mention these or not
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: data63 on October 02, 2021, 10:21:10 AM
don't know if it's relevant but starting TC with the selection P3DV4 it creates an add-on.xml in c:/user/username/Documents/AIG Traffic Controller/ with an entry: <CommandLine>-P3DV1</CommandLine>
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 10:23:58 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 10:21:10 AM
don't know if it's relevant but starting TC with the selection P3DV4 it creates an add-on.xml in c:/user/username/Documents/AIG Traffic Controller/ with an entry: <CommandLine>-P3DV1</CommandLine>

yeah thats could be the issue ;D
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 10:21:10 AM
don't know if it's relevant but starting TC with the selection P3DV4 it creates an add-on.xml in c:/user/username/Documents/AIG Traffic Controller/ with an entry: <CommandLine>-P3DV1</CommandLine>

Try the new EXE and remove before the invalid XML
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:01:44 AM
same outcome again, the app is going to background process. ram usage still continue %95 or more and nothing happened 
I remove TC files and xml, run program admin rights
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: koala on October 02, 2021, 11:04:44 AM
just for info, even with the latest exe from the post above it's still very slow on my end.

almost 6 minutes to launch TC, all works fine for me, but just super slow (sometimes it was even slower than that and i ended up killing the process like the gentlemen posting issues with the loading since v0.4), i think the previous version launched almost instantly.

is it really necessary to check all the p3d scenery at every start of TC ? For people barely changing their scenery files it's a bit sad to have to wait every single time for all those checks.

in the log more than 5 minutes between these 2 lines
   Check scenery files
Load AIGFP Data

Would it be possible to add an option where we could disable that checking on every start (and then just launch the checking manually if we want via a button if we make scenery changes or want to refresh the scenery data) ? I think it would be a lot less penalizing. Well obviously if that internal checking is mandatory at every start then the option would not be possible. You know like in little nav map, there is an option to rebuild the data from the scenery but that's done 'on demand' and not everytime we launch the tool (just on the first launch it's automatic).

Anyway just an idea, we for sure appreciate your immense work on this through the years  ::cheers::
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:26:49 AM
I had been wait more than 1 hour,  Are there any way to return back old version until problem reach a solution
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:27:28 AM
if the cache is done the process should just take a few seconds.

AIGTC will only read bgl files that have changed after the last time the cache was created. Can you run the tool multiple times and check if the loading times is different and if the cache is always recreated
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: data63 on October 02, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
TC takes long time and an incredible amount of RAM scanning ALL *.bgl files in the scenery library.
it takes veeeery long scanning large MESH or photo-Scenery files - RAM usage going way up (for me to a max >12GB)

doesn't look that bad (RAM wise) on second start (from P3D add-ons.cfg) - but still takes very long

btw: GREAT SUPPORT!! ::party::
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
doesn't look that bad (RAM wise) on second start (from P3D add-ons.cfg) - but still takes very long

whats "long"?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
doesn't look that bad (RAM wise) on second start (from P3D add-ons.cfg) - but still takes very long

whats "long"?

For second run, more than hour for me and still continue,
The program interface never open
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
doesn't look that bad (RAM wise) on second start (from P3D add-ons.cfg) - but still takes very long

whats "long"?

For second run, more than hour for me and still continue,
The program interface never open

how big are your BIN files in the cache?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
doesn't look that bad (RAM wise) on second start (from P3D add-ons.cfg) - but still takes very long

whats "long"?

For second run, more than hour for me and still continue,
The program interface never open

how big are your BIN files in the cache?
App stuck  again I will check when able
I Have 16 gb vram
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:56:27 AM
@dubster231

AIGTC is not using any VRAM it uses the actual RAM and when you have already 99%RAM usage when TC only uses 531MB, then there is something off..

@everyone:
I am currently checking out some alternative way to read/write the cache files. The "old" way resulted in ca. 30-60sec. locading time of AIGTC on my end, so I actual have no clue why it takes so long on your ends ???
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 12:03:12 PM
ok we are getting closer:

Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 12:09:09 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: data63 on October 02, 2021, 11:28:57 AM
doesn't look that bad (RAM wise) on second start (from P3D add-ons.cfg) - but still takes very long

whats "long"?

For second run, more than hour for me and still continue,
The program interface never open

how big are your BIN files in the cache?

sorry for that Kaiii3 how can I check it, could you explain  ???
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 12:10:43 PM
open <AIGTC>\Resources\TC there are some bin files how big are they (make sure to use the latest EXE I have uploaded here)
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 12:13:43 PM
there is no file inside <AIGTC>\Resources\TC
just empty ::goofy::

I have download exe files which your post above
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 12:13:43 PM
there is no file inside <AIGTC>\Resources\TC
just empty ::goofy::

ok, have you ran the latest EXE?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 12:13:43 PM
there is no file inside <AIGTC>\Resources\TC
just empty ::goofy::

ok, have you ran the latest EXE?

I have download exe files which your post above
now I am triying again
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 12:32:04 PM
new EXE to try with improved performance and security upgrades ;D
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: koala on October 02, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
well even with the last EXE my loading time is super long  (launched the tool almost 30 times today for testing purposes, at 6-7 minutes each that's like 3hours of watching the loading screen, i found the loading screen screenshot beautiful at first but now i just hate it hahah   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D)

if this can help :
- if i launch TC in p3dv5 mode, the loading is quick if the cache files exists
- if i launch TC in p3dv4 mode it takes ages everytime, the log is filled with 'new airports' entries, not sure, maybe it just rescan everything every time.

not even sure if it's the same issue as other posters because for me it works, it's just super super slow, for other it seems it doesn't launch at all unfortunately.  ::cheers::
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 01:21:03 PM
@koala:

1) Remove the Addon from the P3Dv4 Addon directory in documents
2) Run the last EXE for v4
3) Check in the Addon.xml if it is v4
4) Restart for v4 and check loading times
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: koala on October 02, 2021, 01:26:28 PM
yes it was already v4 in the addon-xml but i don't even use that because, since i do tests, i launch TC manually so i select the version directly from the little combo at the start. Don't want to restart p3d to autostart TC everytime because that would be even more looooong  ;)
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 01:46:44 PM
ok, then it should work now with the above attached EXE. If not plese upload the logs after the second startup. Between both startups check if both bin files are created

Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 02:30:53 PM
nothing change Kaiii3 :'(   I did all of your instructions

I dont know why but when I start program ram using increasing gradually after reaching 99 percent, physical memory are decreasing again gradually to almost zero but virtual memory ram and ram display showing 99 percent, and then pc is going to freeze.

I uploaded pics 
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: rangingwarr on October 02, 2021, 03:34:19 PM
Just to give you a bit more data, using the original files for the new update it took 3.5 minutes to load and is using 936mb of RAM after I was able to get it to generate the bin files. My bin files are 3mb for the airport one and 8mb for the scenery one. Also my addon.xml was generated properly for P3Dv4 after disabling the old one to be able to do a flight yesterday

Since we're discussing loading times I think I should mention that P3D and my AIG programs are on a SATA SSD and the OCI files are on a HDD
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 03:40:31 PM
@dubster

can you check if there are more filter in the directory after these two files:

   New File: O:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Addon Scenery\ASIA\Philippines\[RPLL] Manila, Ninoy Aquino Intl [P3Dv4]\scenery\RPLL_ADEX_GM_CVX.bgl
   New File: O:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Addon Scenery\ASIA\Philippines\[RPLL] Manila, Ninoy Aquino Intl [P3Dv4]\scenery\rpll_ads.BGL

they are the alst entries in the TC log
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 03:40:31 PM
@dubster

can you check if there are more filter in the directory after these two files:

   New File: O:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Addon Scenery\ASIA\Philippines\[RPLL] Manila, Ninoy Aquino Intl [P3Dv4]\scenery\RPLL_ADEX_GM_CVX.bgl
   New File: O:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Addon Scenery\ASIA\Philippines\[RPLL] Manila, Ninoy Aquino Intl [P3Dv4]\scenery\rpll_ads.BGL

they are the alst entries in the TC log

I remove all of Asia Folder and then I will test again but most probably they were last entires before the pc freeze
I will inform you, for your information old version of TC is working correctly without error. I tested it. it is opening in 2 min
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: acehigh817 on October 02, 2021, 04:37:25 PM
Hello,

I too am having the same issue and have read through the post. (I'm running on a i7-8700k @ 4.75Ghz - 16GB Corsair Memory - m2 SSD's - Red Devil 6900 XT)

Originally, Traffic Controller wanted me to update. After closing P3D and downloading the file. I just overwrote everything from the downloaded zip to the original working folder. But that just hung.

So I thought it was something I had missed on the update. I came to the forums. I grabbed the Beta installer and copied everything over again. But no joy.

When I open perfmon, memory resources are through the roof. To the point of making Windows unresponsive.

Steps I took:

I downloaded the zip you have recently provided, overwrote, and ran the EXE.

Doing a time check.. It took 6 mins to get past the Loading Airports. And the Original Loading screen closed. AIGTC was still showing as a running process using 9GB of Memory.

I let it continue. During this time, a couple boxes opening and then closed but they were only boxes. No content.

Around 9 mins after. It shut down and wasn't showing in the Task Manager. However, Windows was still very slow or unresponsive. I've had to use my reset button a lot. It's making Windows completely unstable for some reason.

Another thing I noticed, was that AIG didn't start up with the Sim. I thought maybe it had to do with the new AIGTC.

When I realized that wasn't the truth. I start AIGTC and it crashed everything. Simbrief Downloader also crashed because of resource issues. (on a separate time)

I'm not sure which log you need. I forgot from the earlier posts. So here is everything with the word "Log".  ;D

I appreciate your help!
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 02, 2021, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 02, 2021, 03:40:31 PM
@dubster

can you check if there are more filter in the directory after these two files:

   New File: O:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Addon Scenery\ASIA\Philippines\[RPLL] Manila, Ninoy Aquino Intl [P3Dv4]\scenery\RPLL_ADEX_GM_CVX.bgl
   New File: O:\Prepar3D v4 Addons\Addon Scenery\ASIA\Philippines\[RPLL] Manila, Ninoy Aquino Intl [P3Dv4]\scenery\rpll_ads.BGL

they are the alst entries in the TC log

I have one good news  ::happy:: and one problem  :nuke:

I removed all my scenery entries from p3d v4 (took backup scenery.cfg ). I tested TC only with addon sceneries now it is working finally I saw the interface of app. I will post log files for working setting. initializing time of TC is around 5 min and In TC folders I have airport bin ( 64kb) scenery bin (729 kb)

beside that  I have to add other sceneries via scenery.cfg. I will wait your respond for me for another test.

I hope we will handle with it, great support  ::party::
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
0.4.1.1 will come with an optional "slow mode", that will require less RAM but will take a bit longer to load the initial cache on the first startup.

By default AIGTC will scan all scenery files in all scenery directories the same time. In the new mode only on directory will be scanned at the same time.

Update is going onlne in a few minutes
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Musician_89 on October 03, 2021, 01:29:10 PM
I am having the same issue "load airports" and i am using the latest version of Traffic Controller.
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Quax on October 03, 2021, 01:40:21 PM
I used 0.4.1.1 in slow mode. But there are freezes by full RAM. I have 32GB installed.
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: Quax on October 03, 2021, 01:40:21 PM
I used 0.4.1.1 in slow mode. But there are freezes by full RAM. I have 32GB installed.

freezes or crash?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
0.4.1.1 will come with an optional "slow mode", that will require less RAM but will take a bit longer to load the initial cache on the first startup.

By default AIGTC will scan all scenery files in all scenery directories the same time. In the new mode only on directory will be scanned at the same time.

Update is going onlne in a few minutes


Hi Kaiii3,  TC has a hard time dealing with large data files if I have to speak for my PC. When I try to load all its files, the PC first uses all physical ram (16Gb) and Virtual Memory (55Gb) and then eventually freezes and finally becomes inoperable.

For my own PC, I found a solution: first, I made a backup and cleaned all the entries in the Scenery.cfg file. Then I ran the program with only the first hundred entries. In about 15 minutes, it scanned all entries and opened it and created a bin file. At the other stage, I ran the program over and over again, adding the next 100 on top of the old one each time. totally It took me 2.5 hours because there were 438 entries in My Scenery.cfg file, but I was able to scan all the files without the PC freezing.

This is nothing to me compared to yesterday's waste of time. I must say that TC had a hard time scanning ORBX and Default P3dv4 files. These files use the most of time. It usually has no problem scanning normal Scenery files and Addons.

Now, after everything is over, I have Airport. bin file 14mb Scenery.bin file 26mb. and TC opening time is around 5 minutes.
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: acehigh817 on October 03, 2021, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
0.4.1.1 will come with an optional "slow mode", that will require less RAM but will take a bit longer to load the initial cache on the first startup.

By default AIGTC will scan all scenery files in all scenery directories the same time. In the new mode only on directory will be scanned at the same time.

Update is going onlne in a few minutes

Good Morning,
I've gone ahead and redownloaded AIGTC. And it's gone from bad to worse.

When I right click and Run as Admin. The desktop flickers. But nothing opens. Nothing in Task Manager as well. I've tried to open it about 6 times. I've even restarted my PC.

As a test. I took the new download and the latest EXE upload and combined them. (exe upload overwrote new download) And still got the same results. Something is deploying but is shutting down instantly. Just a flicker, blue loading circle for a couple seconds, and nothing.

Could you kindly provide the previous AIGTC version. So those of us affected can use a stable copy for now?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
0.4.1.1 will come with an optional "slow mode", that will require less RAM but will take a bit longer to load the initial cache on the first startup.

By default AIGTC will scan all scenery files in all scenery directories the same time. In the new mode only on directory will be scanned at the same time.

Update is going onlne in a few minutes


Hi Kaiii3,  TC has a hard time dealing with large data files if I have to speak for my PC. When I try to load all its files, the PC first uses all physical ram (16Gb) and Virtual Memory (55Gb) and then eventually freezes and finally becomes inoperable.

For my own PC, I found a solution: first, I made a backup and cleaned all the entries in the Scenery.cfg file. Then I ran the program with only the first hundred entries. In about 15 minutes, it scanned all entries and opened it and created a bin file. At the other stage, I ran the program over and over again, adding the next 100 on top of the old one each time. totally It took me 2.5 hours because there were 438 entries in My Scenery.cfg file, but I was able to scan all the files without the PC freezing.

This is nothing to me compared to yesterday's waste of time. I must say that TC had a hard time scanning ORBX and Default P3dv4 files. These files use the most of time. It usually has no problem scanning normal Scenery files and Addons.

Now, after everything is over, I have Airport. bin file 14mb Scenery.bin file 26mb. and TC opening time is around 5 minutes.

how big are all your addons (scenery BGL only) combined?

Quote from: acehigh817 on October 03, 2021, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
0.4.1.1 will come with an optional "slow mode", that will require less RAM but will take a bit longer to load the initial cache on the first startup.

By default AIGTC will scan all scenery files in all scenery directories the same time. In the new mode only on directory will be scanned at the same time.

Update is going onlne in a few minutes

Good Morning,
I've gone ahead and redownloaded AIGTC. And it's gone from bad to worse.

When I right click and Run as Admin. The desktop flickers. But nothing opens. Nothing in Task Manager as well. I've tried to open it about 6 times. I've even restarted my PC.

As a test. I took the new download and the latest EXE upload and combined them. (exe upload overwrote new download) And still got the same results. Something is deploying but is shutting down instantly. Just a flicker, blue loading circle for a couple seconds, and nothing.

Could you kindly provide the previous AIGTC version. So those of us affected can use a stable copy for now?


this indicates some other issue, please open a new topic and post the logs.
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
Without Orbx And Default P3d v4 files, my sceneryfiles are around 140gb
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 03:45:42 PM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
Without Orbx And Default P3d v4 files, my sceneryfiles are around 140gb totally

ok and with ORBX I guess quite much more xD

Did yoi run in "slow" mode?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
Without Orbx And Default P3d v4 files, my sceneryfiles are around 140gb totally

can you make a backup of the cache (remove the original after that) and try the below version.

Run it in slow-mode, it will only load 10 files at the same time. This will increase loading times, but should keep RAM usage lower.

Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 06:47:38 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 03, 2021, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: dubster231 on October 03, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
Without Orbx And Default P3d v4 files, my sceneryfiles are around 140gb totally

can you make a backup of the cache (remove the original after that) and try the below version.

Run it in slow-mode, it will only load 10 files at the same time. This will increase loading times, but should keep RAM usage lower.

Ok I will try, most probably  tomorrow night  I will have chance for it.

If I would experience  any problem during  slow mode, may I start Tc with my own cache without any lost
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: acehigh817 on October 10, 2021, 12:35:22 PM
Sorry for the late reply (My son was born this week. :yeah:)

I don't believe it to be a different issue in general. Whatever it was doing while failing to load, isn't happening anymore.

I redownloaded the files this morning. Deleted my current TC folder and made a new one. And extracted the download into that folder.

Ran TC as Admin and selected Slow Mode. At this time.. It's been running on "Loading Airports" for the last 8+ mins. It's currently using 10.5GB of RAM out of 16GB.

In regards to folder sizes..

P3Dv4/Scenery folder is 15.5GB
P3Dv4/Addon Scenery is 19.0GB
My Documents/P3Dv4 Addon Folders is 2.74GB
I also have about 300GB of photoreal scenery on a different SSD.

I've had to stop writing this post a few times because TC is using all the resources and froze the pc.

Update: After 18 mins. It loaded using Slow Mode.

Tech Note:
I'm running on a i7-8700K @ 4.75Ghz and 16GB of 3200 RAM. Last night, I ordered a i7-11700K, new mobo, and 32GB of 4600 RAM. I'm also running AiG and the sim, on the same M2 SSD. You would think it would be super fast being on the same partition.

Anything you can think of to help with the load times?
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2021, 12:45:27 PM
congratz:

The loading times for the next startup should be faster (and you should not get any popup message about slow mode).
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: acehigh817 on October 10, 2021, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: Kaiii3 on October 10, 2021, 12:45:27 PM
congratz:

The loading times for the next startup should be faster (and you should not get any popup message about slow mode).

It loaded in 1 1/2 mins.  ::party::

Thank You for the help!
Title: Re: [OPEN] Update 4.1.0 stuck at load airports
Post by: Musician_89 on October 20, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
I'm still having this issue. It is on a loop at "load airports"