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Title: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: philbean on February 26, 2009, 12:22:04 AM

I've noticed everytime a new model is released, a few people hint that they'd love a new replacement for the AIA 744.

To me though (although I'd love a new 744), its the old AIA 763 which looks desperately in need of an update.

Anyone agree?


PS: and an MD11  :D
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: E145Drvr on February 26, 2009, 12:49:20 AM
I'll agree, however, the folks that model these wonderful, FREE AI aircraft in their FREE time are going to model what they want to model.  I'm sure deep on somebody's hard drive is a 747, 763, or MD-11, and they'll be released when they can be completed.  Thanks to AIG, TFS, CIS, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head, there are a bunch of new releases in the last few days and weeks to keep me busy for a while though!
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: DHC8 on February 26, 2009, 01:06:55 AM
Second that, would love to see a replacement for the aging models from AIA and PAI/FSP, like the already mentioned B747's MD11 and B763, and also maybe the Dash 8 100/200/300, B727 etc. But we'll just have to see what time brings, cuz As Tim just said these modelers model what they like and are interested in.
So just have to wait and see what might be coming our way..  :)

Many thanks to AIG, TFS, OSP, CIS, AIM, even the "discontinued" EVAi & AIA and also PAI/FSP for all your hard work nd these wonderful models throughout the years. ;)

 ::cheers::
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: DanielFall on February 26, 2009, 03:30:29 PM
People who think the AIA 767, 747 and 727 are in desperate need of replacement must be veeeery spoiled.. You guys should have seen what the AI scene looked like just a couple of years ago, before TFS, AIG and AIM etc.. ;)
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: DHC8 on February 26, 2009, 03:54:37 PM
OK.. But what about the FSP/PAI models, what would you have to say about those ::evilgrin::
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Andy on February 26, 2009, 03:56:37 PM
OK.. But what about the FSP/PAI models, what would you have to say about those ::evilgrin::

They were an absolute godsend.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Hornets Nest on February 26, 2009, 04:01:28 PM
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OK.. But what about the FSP/PAI models, what would you have to say about those   ::evilgrin::

My AI would be very much thinner on the ground (and in the air) without them..  ;)
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: FMCS on February 26, 2009, 04:34:24 PM
Do you guys remember when they were first released? Boy was that ever exciting! I guess although all these new models are wonderful and no less appreciated by me...I must admit seeing those first Ai dedicated aircraft models from FSP/PAI and Aardvark was like...Well Andy put it best.."They were an absolute godsend"  ::cheers::


Frank
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Globus on February 26, 2009, 04:50:06 PM
Hi I agree with bought,l think that a replacement for the AIA 763 will be a good idea,but than on the other hand like Andy said They were an absolute godsend & they will be till a replacement will be available,anyway thanks for all the good work you're doing Andy & all at AIG have a good day.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: flying finn on February 26, 2009, 05:13:37 PM
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OK.. But what about the FSP/PAI models, what would you have to say about those   ::evilgrin::

My AI would be very much thinner on the ground (and in the air) without them..  ;)
And would most likely be out of the place in Ouagadougou. None has created a matchto PAI AFCAD package. I've still got 33 AFCAD's of about 4000 made by PAI. And most of those 4000 were PAI until I've found something else.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Klemen on February 26, 2009, 06:37:34 PM
Guys I really do not see why you need to update models which were already made (with a lot of LODS)? There are so many "AI" planes with only one or two lods available, which I think would need more attention than B763.

For example ATP plane, JS planes, MD-11 plane B747SP..
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Tupolev144 on February 26, 2009, 07:15:43 PM
There are many planes which are in much more urgent need of an upgrade than the AIA 767-series. I'll mention the Antonov An-140, Fokker F-50, Douglas DC-8 series, Boeing 707 series and 747SP and the Ilyushin Il-62 and Il-96..

Please have a look at those models first Phill before you are complaining about the AIA 767.

Thank you,
Peter
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Sloeber on February 26, 2009, 08:28:53 PM
Well...there's at least 2 versions of the Aardvark DC8..
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: philbean on February 26, 2009, 09:33:42 PM
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There are many planes which are in much more urgent need of an upgrade than the AIA 767-series. I'll mention the Antonov An-140, Fokker F-50, Douglas DC-8 series, Boeing 707 series and 747SP and the Ilyushin Il-62 and Il-96..

Please have a look at those models first Phill before you are complaining about the AIA 767

Woahhhh there!
Not complaining. Just mentioning it  ;)

I agree with you. I just think that when you look at the average ramp, the a/c you list there are quite rare whilst the 767 is still quite a common sight.

I started with FS Traffic 2004 and then PAI.. so the AIA763 is far far superior than those.. and it'll 'do'. But on an average ramp alongside the newer AIG, DJC and TFS models.. it's starting to look a bit aged.


Don't get me wrong though. Respect to all the wonderful AI modellers.  ::cheers::
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: vc-10 on February 26, 2009, 10:48:27 PM
The latest paintkit makes the AIA 767-300 look much better... Maik did a whole load of paints on it.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Tupolev144 on February 27, 2009, 12:30:07 PM
Well...there's at least 2 versions of the Aardvark DC8..

You are right, but only for the DC-8-72 and DC-8-73, not for the classic series..
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: FMCS on February 27, 2009, 12:47:43 PM
Well...there's at least 2 versions of the Aardvark DC8..

You are right, but only for the DC-8-72 and DC-8-73, not for the classic series..


I would have loved to have an Aardvark classic DC-8-50, 60 series to go with those!!! :'(


Frank
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: jesse_reid on February 27, 2009, 01:37:40 PM
The latest paintkit makes the AIA 767-300 look much better... Maik did a whole load of paints on it.

I concur. Paintkits can make a tremendous difference. Daniel Fall's F-50 paintkit is one good example, along with the tremendous work Darren Belanger does on some of those old PAI models etc.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: kaese2002 on February 28, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
i still hope of getting an AIA 763 SD with the same mapping to use the enhanced PK...would be bad to loose all those nice details..
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Tupolev144 on February 28, 2009, 12:52:26 PM
i still hope of getting an AIA 763 SD with the same mapping to use the enhanced PK...would be bad to loose all those nice details..

Maybe in about one month, hasn't April 1st been the date for AIA to release new models during the last years?  ::party2::
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: windchill on March 05, 2009, 02:16:21 PM
I just read this thread and thought it would be a good opportunity to make a comment.

We did an analysis of some of the "older" models back in early 2008, one thing became clear very quickly was the accuracy of Craig Crawley's Aardvark 767's - comparing them directly with Boeing's 3D drawings - they are amazingly good. I am hard pressed to think how the model can be improved upon other than perhaps a extra LOD or two, XML, or the need for Winglets...things I am prepared to live without based on these excellent models that are now SIX years old !!!

There is another point to make in that there is an updated paintkit for the 763 and 762 that make some pretty nice improvements to the original. Look for 763 releases from Maik and Garry over the last 18 months, they have been making excellent use of it. There are no 762 paints yet available but I am sure there will be soon :-)

Keep hold and keep faith in your old AIA 767 models - they are excellent and easily stand the test of time.

Cheers
Brian

 
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: snauffal on March 05, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
The AIA 767s might be good in a lot of ways but I personally like the AIM 762 a lot more. And I have to agree, the AIA 763 could use a replacement.

The 747's not that much.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: M-Sauce on March 05, 2009, 05:09:25 PM
I agree, the AM 767-200 is really gorgeous. I like the ARD 767-300, but it looks weird from certain angles and really sticks out when next to the new AI stuff released lately.

On the other hand, it would definitely be great with a makeover that added all the new bells and whistles and improved some of the curves. It would be a great base to launch from.

I really wish that AIM would have released the 763. It seems like the 762 was designed with expansion into the 763, as can be seen when looking at the texture or the PK. Too bad that it never came to be.  :'(

Mariano  ::cheers::
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Maximilian on March 05, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
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..I like the ARD 767-300, but it looks weird from certain angles and really sticks out when next to the new AI stuff released lately..

What!? Did I've missed something???
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: vc-10 on March 05, 2009, 09:28:13 PM
ARD=ai ARDvark
(I assume!)
Weren't the source files for the 767 lost in a HDD crash?
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Maximilian on March 05, 2009, 09:41:05 PM
 :oops:
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Andy on March 05, 2009, 11:28:45 PM
ARD=ai ARDvark
(I assume!)
Weren't the source files for the 767 lost in a HDD crash?

yeah, but that's not to say David doesn't have an older copy tucked away somewhere in a dusty corner of a hard drive, like the 757. Here's hoping anyway!
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2009, 11:46:31 PM
 ::goofy::
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: FMCS on March 06, 2009, 12:25:08 AM
::goofy::

That's great!!! :D

Frank
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: flyPWM on March 06, 2009, 04:12:25 AM
Where can you get these updated paintkits for AIA's B762 & 763? As for the topic, I don't think there's anything wrong with any of AIA's 767's.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: NWADC9 on March 06, 2009, 04:18:44 AM
Where can you get these updated paintkits for AIA's B762 & 763? As for the topic, I don't think there's anything wrong with any of AIA's 767's.
The AIA model is part of the older generation of AI aircraft. The AIM brings the 762 to the new generation where we are now, with XML coding for takeoff flaps and the like.
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: philbean on March 29, 2009, 10:37:27 PM

Hmmm.

Now we're starting to see a few 763s with winglets around the world.. we might get a new (or modified) 763 model d'ya think???
 ::rolleyes:
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: vc-10 on March 29, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
Well, April 1st is on Wednesday ;D
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: DHC8 on March 29, 2009, 11:38:18 PM
Well sometimes April 1st does bring some good things ;D :P
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: kaese2002 on March 30, 2009, 04:18:23 AM
i still pray for an AIA 763 with no changed textures..  ;)
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: flying finn on March 30, 2009, 07:19:15 AM
Well, April 1st is on Wednesday ;D

That's why it has been so quiet in the AI world? ::rolleyes:
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Tupolev144 on March 30, 2009, 02:06:38 PM
In the last few years April the 1st always brought some new Ai-models..
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: FMCS on April 01, 2009, 02:30:30 AM
I wonder if there will be a surprise in the morning? I'm actually very anxious! ::evilgrin:: Could it be the remaining DC-8's, or the Fokker F-28 series or perhaps a new B767-300...or...it will be the entire Swordfish fishing fleet for Cape Cod!!! ;)

Frank
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: csturdiv on April 01, 2009, 03:33:04 AM
Hey Ben, we forgot to put the teaser images on the banner section!  :stirpot:
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Ben on April 01, 2009, 06:52:19 AM
Damn, I knew there was something I was supposed to do  :oops:  ;D
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Mr. JB on April 01, 2009, 10:41:44 AM
There is an announcement on the AIA site. I cant clearly interpret it but it seems that we could expect a 747 in near future??  ???

http://www.ai-aardvark.com/
Title: Re: 763 - Badly in need of replacement
Post by: Dan Cooper on April 01, 2009, 11:20:17 AM
There is an announcement on the AIA site. I cant clearly interpret it but it seems that we could expect a 747 in near future??  ???

http://www.ai-aardvark.com/

It seems like a disappointing 1st April 2009 for AI at the moment. Hopefully I'm wrong. 

Hm...If I read the AIA announcement I would think we couldn't expect anything from aardvark.